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pegkerr ([personal profile] pegkerr) wrote2005-04-18 09:06 pm

Changing hearts and minds

I have been thinking a great deal about a rather large, amorphous subject the last few days. Various threads of thought about a wide variety of subjects has led to this post, including:
-- the painful processing I had to do to get over the last election as I wondered about how Americans can have such vastly different visions of what direction our country should take. How do we come together?

-- reading Moral Politics: How Liberals and Conservatives Think by George Lakoff

-- the heated rhetoric about the Schiavo case

-- thinking about the Islamic fundamentalist worldview vs. American world view

-- a post here I made a while ago about my encounter with a man who felt differently than I did about mothers working outside the home, which I recently reposted at [livejournal.com profile] feminist here

-- a post I made about trying to change a coworker's mind about gay civil rights

-- a post [livejournal.com profile] wayfairer made about coming out to some students she was tutoring (and how one's viewpoint that "I hate gays" abruptly changed to "okay, I hate gay men, but lesbians are cool") when he realized that oops, his tutor was gay.
There are places in the world where if people disagree, they solve the disparity of opinion by trying to kill the people on the other side. I would hope that there are better ways of sorting out opinions. We write our various essays/rants here in LiveJournal not just to vent, but because we want to influence others to come to join our point of view (at least I do). But it seems to me that a lot of public discourse, at least in America today, isn't trying to do that. If we're lazy, we friend those on LJ who think only the way we do, and we listen to our favorite radio stations, and we have our favorite columnists who tell us what we already agree with.

There was an article in my paper today about Ann Coulter. People go to hear Ann Coulter not because they want to be persuaded by her arguments, but just to hear her bash the opposition. But I rather doubt that Ann Coulter has ever changed anyone's mind about anything. It's rather difficult to listen to "discourse" which basically boils down to: "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is venal and stupid."

Is anyone ever listening anymore with the possibility about changing his or her mind about anything?

Tell me about something, some issue, that you changed your mind about. (Abortion? Gay rights? Stem cell research? Or . . . ?) Share your experience of what led you to change your mind. And I don't mean "I used to sorta feel this way, but now I sorta feel the other way." I'm interested in people who have radically changed a very strong opinion about something. I'm not interested in re-hashing the particular arguments or starting a flame war on the issue, whatever it is: I'm interested in what made you alter your opinion. Was it gradual or sudden? Did the people you cared about (who initially believed as you did) disapprove when you started thinking differently? Was it prompted by something that you read? Someone that you met who either made you think of the issue because of the way they lived, or because of something they said? How do you feel about yourself, looking back at what you believed in your past.? Was it easy or painful to do? What else changed for you when you changed your mind? Do you change your mind less often now?

[identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com 2005-04-19 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Seems to me I was much more favorable towards capital punishment many years ago. I *still* think some kinds of deeds can't be recovered from, but I'm now quite convinced that our society, specifically our judicial system, can't reliably identify people who have committed those deeds, so.

I was a lot more moderate about gun rights 30 years ago. Probably, without having thought about it much, even thought that restricting access was mostly a good idea. Over time, it became more and more apparent that restricting access didn't work, and if you somehow magically succeeded in restricting access, you'd just reduce all the thugs to clubs and knives -- putting most people *even more* at their mercy.

I was a lot more favorably inclined towards government-run safety nets 30 years ago. The more I watch and think, the more it seems to me that people factor the lowered risk into their calculations, just like with anti-lock brakes, thus making the price pretty much unbounded. Also, the government uses such things as an opportunity to intrude in lots of unexpected ways into people's lives, and puts small-minded controlling bureaucrats firmly in charge of a growing underclass. I have moved more and more towards thinking the government is not my friend and not to be trusted, let alone relied upon.