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pegkerr ([personal profile] pegkerr) wrote2008-06-19 09:17 pm
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As if I didn't have enough troubles feeding my family

Fiona got braces on her teeth yesterday.

Yeah, yeah, they hurt, but we expected that. What we didn't clearly understand beforehand, however, frankly, is much more serious.

Except for her two front upper teeth and two front lower teeth, her teeth literally do not meet anywhere in her jaw. The line of her upper teeth curves up from the front teeth, and so up until now, she's been chewing by drastically overbiting. The brackets on her teeth now keep her from doing that; in fact, there are stop-guards ("turbos") on the upper two front teeth that prevent it.

What this means is that she can't use her molars at all. She can't chew her food. My goodness, how the hell is she supposed to eat anything?

And, of course, Fiona being Fiona, some of the obvious alternatives are off the table. She won't eat eggs. She won't eat oatmeal. She won't eat cream of wheat. She won't eat mashed potatoes. And, being that Rob has been too busy to go to the grocery store for the past week, there is no bread in the house. Her dinner tonight consisted of rice and a wedge of Laughing Cow cheese.

She's been eating soup. But that's going to get really old, really fast.

She leaves Saturday on a servant trip with our old church and will be gone for a week. So for a week, it won't be my problem. But when she comes back . . . argh.

She's going to have them on for about a year and a half. I wonder how long it will be before she can use her molars again.

Edited to add: We sent an email off to the orthodontist, who replied as follows:
All of the things Fiona is experiencing is to be expected. The first couple of days to a week are going to be the toughest to get through. The teeth are moving so it's similar to when you workout, the next day or so your muscles are very sore and tired, the same is happening with the ligaments and tissues that surround the teeth that are moving. The bite turbos are placed to allow the lower teeth to move, if they weren't on she would be hitting the braces and potentially have many loose brackets. It is normal that her back teeth do not hit right now; each day it will get easier and easier to eat, as the bite begins to adjust and align. Even if the turbos were not on, when she would eat her back teeth would not hit because they would hit the lower braces. Tylenol works great to ease any discomfort she may be experiencing. Also, if she eats/drinks cold things that will help relax the wires and ease some of her discomfort.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/anam_cara_/ 2008-06-20 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Jamba Juice smoothies!!

;)

That is going to suck. Looks like you'll be making a lot of homemade ice cream for the summer?

[identity profile] sociofemme.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, man, that sucks! I remember my first go-round in braces (underbite, ugh) when I had the same thing happen to me. I mostly used the food processor a bit, and ate a lot of soup and oatmeal, if I remember correctly. My sympathies to your poor girlie.
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[personal profile] naomikritzer 2008-06-20 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit.

On the bright side, you may get to test the theory that she'll eat {insert undesired food here} if she just gets hungry enough...

Have you...

[identity profile] lsanderson.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Tried Cream of Rice? It's a lot more delicate than Cream of Wheat...

Re: Have you...

[identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If she will eat Cream of Rice, she probably would eat congee [Chinese]/guk [Korean]; it's the easiest thing in the world to make, and you can put tiny bits of meat or other protein into it.

[identity profile] sternel.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, gods, the braces years. All my sympathy to Fiona! I remember being in pain after they were tightened each month, but the hunger always seemed to win out. I ate it all, even the forbidden stuff, I just ate it really slowly and got very good at cutting things into very small pieces. Soft burritos, spaghetti, and lots of chicken noodle soup. (Possibly a lot of french fries too, but I invoke the Fifth on that.) The only thing that turned out to be a disaster was caramel -- it got stuck on the fixtures and made itself at home.

And a heads up to you, Peg, if her orthodontia involves those little rubber bands at any point? You will be finding them for years to come. I've had those stupid braces off for fourteen years now and I still find bags of those things everywhere. (They actually make very good stitch markers for knitting.) Also very convenient for surprise attacks on unsuspecting classmates, but I think I'll take the Fifth again.

[identity profile] heure-actuelle.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
ha i actually used the leftover bands for my hair since i dislike the normal hair bands they sell.

[identity profile] moodyduck.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
When my wisdom teeth came out I had complications and couldn't eat solids for almost two weeks. My mom started just grinding up the chicken or spaghetti or whatever the rest of the family was eating, because I was in dire need of protein, and tired of yogurt. I'm not picky though so it wasn't too hard.
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[personal profile] naomikritzer 2008-06-20 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
FWIW, the first time I had my braces tightened, my father took me out for a milkshake for dinner. A really large chocolate milkshake. It was to make up for the fact that my parents had insensitively served up lamb chops with corn on the cob for dinner. (I love lamb chops and I burst into sobs at the table when I realized it hurt too much to eat it.)

[identity profile] aome.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
Do you know, when I got my braces off, this was the exact meal I asked for - lamb chops (on the bone, for joyful gnawing) and corn on the cob.

[identity profile] peacockharpy.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Poor Fiona. I know she probably won't appreciate this suggestion on grounds of age, but... baby food. (And I say this because I am surrounded by it.) It would be perfect for a supertaster who can't chew, because it's rendered to be very soft, bland, and palatable. Of course, it's only available in wee little jars, which could be a pain for you.

You could also try mashing up/blenderizing fruits she likes and freezing the puree into popsicles. (Cantaloupe makes a surprisingly good popsicle, as does banana-with-peanut-butter.) She doesn't have to chew them, and they'd meet the ortho's suggestion about cold things.

From the other side of the age-feeding gap, there's also Ensure.
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[identity profile] gwyneira.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, poor Fiona. Even if only for a week or so, how irritating.

If she likes smoothies, they're fairly easy to make with a blender: fruit, yogurt, maybe a bit of milk or juice, and you can throw in a little soy powder for extra protein. (Not too much, though, or it makes the texture odd.)

[identity profile] pegkerr.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Fortunately, we have some soy powder on hand; we bought it for Delia. Thanks. I hadn't thought of that; good suggestion.

[identity profile] mark356.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the almost-gritty texture of milk with toasted soy flour!

[identity profile] tassie-gal.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
BEST advice ever given to me when I was battling wisdom tooth infections coupled with allergies to the primary dental antibiotics - bread soaked in stock. Flavour but really really soft and easy to eat.
Also does she eat bananas? Bananas and custard is a stock favourite of mine when I cant chew.

[identity profile] pegkerr.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Custard--that's a clever way to sneak eggs into her without her really noticing.

I have a recipe for homemade pudding that maybe I can get her to eat.

[identity profile] tassie-gal.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I have a gluten Free pudding recipe somewhere which I think doesnt contain ANYTHING that she doesnt eat. If you want it yell. I also have a VERY yummy cake recipe which although it contains eggs is DEAD simple to make (how hard can egg whites, yolks with sugar and hazelnut meal be?)

[identity profile] irielle.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
When I first got my braces I lived on yogurt for 2-3 days. I'm so glad you contacted the orthodontist. It does get better!!!

[identity profile] kokopoko.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry her teeth don't meet. My teeth won't meet unless my lower jaw slides back 5mm. When I am not talking my jaw just hangs with only the top of the bottom front 2 teeth touching the back of the upper front 2 teeth. Nothing else is touching.

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[identity profile] markgritter.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
When I got bands put on the rear teeth I had a similar problem, that I really didn't have any "bite". I remember having spaghetti and just not being able to make it work. But, I was able to chew within just a few days.

[identity profile] mizzlaurajean.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Ice cream dairy + calories done.

[identity profile] mareklamo.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Try congee - rice porridge. You can make it with leftover rice, or from scratch. I like mine topped with shredded dried pork (available at Asian stores), plus other things like scrambled eggs that Fiona probably won't eat.

[identity profile] aome.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing really to say except YEARGHHH! Pain for both of you. (And well I do remember having braces.) Two was pegged as a likely candidate for braces the first time she visited the dentist - at age three. Her baby teeth are already crowded together - straight, but with absolutely NO room for any bigger teeth to make an appearance in a tidy manner. Oh, goodie.

[identity profile] dreamcoat-mom.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah - just been there, just done that. My 15-year-old just spent the last year with what appeared to be a bear trap in her mouth. She had palatal expanders on both the roof and floor of her mouth that had to be adjusted with a key twice weekly, and a Herpst appliance that does the job of a plain old headgear in about half the time. This lasted for about a year, and she got them out in May. I remember watching her suffer and thinking, "For this we took out a home equity loan?" Now she just has the braces.

It's a tough adjustment when they first go on, and again every time she goes in for an appointment. The servant trip is probably the best thing that could happen for Fiona, as it will mean that she'll have to eat what's available and figure out how to get it down. Making too much of a fuss over it doesn't fly with a busy group, and there will be distractions galore. The more she works on it, the easier it will be, and I'd guess that she'll be able to eat more or less normally by the time she returns.

That said, there will be more times when soft food is necessary. Erika loves cottage cheese, so that's a lifesaver when her mouth is sore. It's cold and soothing. Cold cereal, left to get a little soft is gross in my opinion, but something else she'll eat. Applesauce and other pureed fruits are also a winner. Her "pity party" treat (her words, not mine) is rainbow sherbert.

I know it's a total bummer, but a beautiful smile and a healthy bite will be worth it in the end. Hang in there!

[identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
When B was--hmmmm, hard to remember, with all the kids' surgeries, but--either 4 or 6, he had a bone graft into his upper gum, and was allowed only liquids and semi-liquids for 6 weeks. This was a kid whose main food was meat. It sounds like you and the commenters have thought of most of the things we thought of at that time.

Will she eat "smashed" potatoes--cooked in chunks, then just smashed with a fork and butter or gravy over them? Lund's/Byerly's has several kinds of frozen soups (in boxes, in the freezer case) that aren't hideously pricey--I don't know if she'll eat any of those.

Are the folks running the servant trip going to be able to accommodate her?

[identity profile] mayakda.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I 2nd the tylenol suggestion.

How about protein shakes?

[identity profile] diatryma.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
She will adjust, and probably more quickly because of the trip. She will adjust.

My brother had jaw surgery in high school, once he'd finally stopped growing and we could see what had to be done. This was after a couple rounds of braces, headgear, RPE.... He didn't end up wired shut, which was good, because then you're talking meals through a food processer and a turkey baster, but he couldn't chew. My sister's going through post-tonsillectomy not-chewing, and the same things work for her. Macaroni and cheese, overcooked. Shells and cheese, similarly soft. Pudding-- JM won't eat pudding any more-- and cream soups and stuffing. Rice-a-roni. Honestly, our eating habits didn't change that much. We are not adventurous diners.

At some point, my parents realized that they had three kids who couldn't or wouldn't (that would be picky me) eat corn on the cob. JM's then-braceless front teeth didn't meet at all and Baby Sister's braces got in the way.

[identity profile] teacherla.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Reading this, I flashed back to my own days of braces. Probably it's a good thing for domestic harmony that she'll be away during the first sore phase, heh.

She probably will need the Tylenol. There's a lot of discomfort. At least this is an orthodontist who seems aware of that!
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, this post is giving me flashbacks! My sympathies to her and you!

[identity profile] airemay.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oww!!! My mouth hurt SO MUCH after I got my braces. And after each tightening too, when they would replace the wires. At least she will have wonderful teeth after this! Is she a spaghetti o's person? Those always worked for me when I had mouth pain (whether from getting braces or my wisdom teeth out).

[identity profile] joyful-noise-82.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Baby food. I'm serious! When I wore braces (from age 8 to age 15, thankyouverymuch), every time they were adjusted I could not stand the slightest pressure on my teeth. So, for the first few days, I ate baby food! It comes in a surprising variety of flavors, it's packed with nutrition, and best of all - no chewing is needed.

Of course, for school lunches, we transfered the contents of jars into unmarked leftover dishes. Much more discreet that way.

[identity profile] siriologist.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhhhh ... the first days of braces. We use a lot of soy protein powder. Milk shakes (or soy shakes for my milk allergic son) protein powder laden pancakes ... anything liquid we can add powder to, we've done it. It does get better. BTW Brians teeth hurt for about a day after each ortho appt where they tighten the wires. Of course my bank account hurts every month when I pay that monthly bill. and then there's steven and matthew to get through all this.. ACK!

[identity profile] stinaleigh.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I saw this (http://lunchinabox.net/about/) and thought of you.

Good luck with Fiona.