Peg, our middle daughter Elena often struggles with high fevers, which we need to keep under control because of her various medical conditions. Until her meds kick in, or the virus runs its course, we will alternate tylenol and motrin every three hours under our doctor's supervision. For this to work, you need to keep on top of the fever, setting the alarm to give the meds when they're due, but it works really well. We keep a chart and check it off to be sure we give on time and don't give too soon. This is especially helpful at night when everyone's way too tired and crabby.
Obviously you'll want to check that nothing more serious is going on, but if it's only a virus, see what your doc says about this as an option. No child should have to struggle with temps that high. And no parent should have to see their child suffer if there's a way to help them feel more comfortable.
Peg -- Alcohol sponged on her will cool her faster than water as I remember. Also, be sure to hydrate the heck out of her. Give her about 8 oz of water every two to four hours after starting her with two big glasses of cool water or ice water or gatorade. If she is nauseous get her some sort of suppositories to help that. {I am not sure how young phenergan can be used, but it is wonderful! Watch her for seizures at that high a temp. I will be praying for both of you. I have had that high a temp and it is no fun. Oh, and if you can put a fan on her to blow her off to cool her skin it might also help. The high temp is more dangerous than the quick cooling. Good luck! and do keep us "posted." Hugs to you both.
This is all far too scary. Poor Delia, of course, but poor you and Rob, too. Keep on top of it, talk to the doctors, kick them around a bit if necessary.
Well, if it's *necessary*, that doctor deserved some bruises. I suspect some doctors are much more prone to the necessity of being kicked than others, but I've lead a remarkably doctor-free life (being quite healthy and not accident-prone).
Certainly it should not be done, to doctors or anybody else, casually or recreationally. (Okay, in the absence of consent).
I strongly believe you need to take her to ER NOW. When Rachael's temps reached 104 with her ear infections I had to keep sponge bathing her till it went down at least 1 degree to 103 or lower. If not off to the ER as temps that high are dangerous.
I think you should take her back to Children's. (I'm posting this hours after you posted that you were calling the clinic, and you haven't updated, so it's quite possible that they said they same thing.)
Poor kid! With a fever that high, there are risks of seizures, so be on the lookout for that and like someone said above, keep her hydrated. Popsicles or frozen Italian ices would be good and they shouldn't upset her tummy either.
Keep us posted. A fever that high is not good but it does mean her body is working to fight off whatever it is.
Poor Delia and poor Peg! I only just checked LJ and saw this had been going on for such a worryingly long time.... the only other advice I could offer is as follows. I mix up Vitamin C powder with orange juice and soft-freeze it in a shallow tray into a sort of sherbet. Vitamin C usually helps with infections (of all kinds) and the cool sherbet is soothing and cooling. I am thinking of you both and hoping this passes quickly.
The only reason I mention typhus, which is more common in the Southwest & West parts of the US (but can occur anywhere) is that you get just this sort of picture: high fever, usually initially diagnosed as 'viral illness', faint red rash over the torso, continuing high fever, low white blood cell count (did they draw one of those at the ED, when you were there?), cough, muscle aches and fatigue and just-plain-not-feeling-right.
Cat-fleas can carry typhus, although it's more commonly found on rat-fleas.
Doxycycline is the medicine of choice, and it's used empirically when typhus is suspected: that means a blood draw to confirm, and while you wait for the test to come back, antibiotics to see if they work.
Which may sound cavalier, but it takes 2-3 weeks for the test to come back, and who wants to have a febrile kid for 2-3 weeks? (Speaking as a mother, NOT ME!)
I hate to be alarmist, and I am not the most educated person on medical matters, to say the least, but I am under the strong impression that lingering temperatures above 104 and any temperatures around 105 mean HOSPITAL NOW.
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Date: 2004-08-24 05:59 pm (UTC)Obviously you'll want to check that nothing more serious is going on, but if it's only a virus, see what your doc says about this as an option. No child should have to struggle with temps that high. And no parent should have to see their child suffer if there's a way to help them feel more comfortable.
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Date: 2004-08-25 06:40 am (UTC)We bruise easily.
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Date: 2004-08-25 01:52 pm (UTC)Certainly it should not be done, to doctors or anybody else, casually or recreationally. (Okay, in the absence of consent).
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Date: 2004-08-24 10:49 pm (UTC)Keep us posted. A fever that high is not good but it does mean her body is working to fight off whatever it is.
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Date: 2004-08-25 06:19 am (UTC)Poor Delia and poor Peg! I only just checked LJ and saw this had been going on for such a worryingly long time.... the only other advice I could offer is as follows. I mix up Vitamin C powder with orange juice and soft-freeze it in a shallow tray into a sort of sherbet. Vitamin C usually helps with infections (of all kinds) and the cool sherbet is soothing and cooling. I am thinking of you both and hoping this passes quickly.
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Date: 2004-08-25 07:35 am (UTC)Cat-fleas can carry typhus, although it's more commonly found on rat-fleas.
Doxycycline is the medicine of choice, and it's used empirically when typhus is suspected: that means a blood draw to confirm, and while you wait for the test to come back, antibiotics to see if they work.
Which may sound cavalier, but it takes 2-3 weeks for the test to come back, and who wants to have a febrile kid for 2-3 weeks? (Speaking as a mother, NOT ME!)
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