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In thinking over today's comment thread, I started to wonder: what do all Americans really agree on, no matter which side they voted yesterday? What can we build from there? I'm groping for utterly non-controversal commonalities, that neither side can reasonably claim that they have "staked" for their side alone, but that all Americans can say, oh, of course, we all believe that, no question.

Um. That every child should be wanted and welcomed. [Some suggest that this is not acceptable to pro-lifers because it's too "coded" for pro-choice. Well, pro-lifers? Do you object to this?] [change to:] That every child would have a loving home. [Thanks [livejournal.com profile] ambar]

Clean air and water.

Safe food and medicine.

That old age should be free from the fear of want.

That we are I am secure within our borders and when we I travel abroad.

That there is a value to society in educating the next generation. [Although not all are willing to help pay for it. [livejournal.com profile] cakmpls suggests that there are Americans who don't see the importance in placing a priority on anything for the generation after their own. Do you agree?][okay, per comment by [livejournal.com profile] cedarlibrarian below, this gets crossed off. *Sigh*]

Fiscal responsibility, a job for everyone who wants one [although some would limit jobs by race or gender][[livejournal.com profile] jiggery_pokery points out that full employment is held by some to drive up inflation, so there are some who don't want full employment, alas], food and shelter for everyone [not that we are willing to pay for these things for other people.]

An appreciation for the dignity of every human person regardless of age, sex, race, sexual preference, religious difference, or mental capability. [Sorry, [livejournal.com profile] _lindsay_, but too many Americans are not on board with these]

That people would be able to recover from setbacks such as loss of a job etc. [Again, although some of us aren't willing to pay for it]

That Americans can better their lot in life through their own hard work.

I recognize that the parties may differ in how these goals are achieved, but am I right that all agree they are worthwhile priorities? What others can you think of?

([livejournal.com profile] kokopo? [livejournal.com profile] amandageist? Bueller?)

Edited to add: [livejournal.com profile] amandageist offered a long, thoughtful reply that ran too long to be a comment here, so she posted it in her own journal. I offer the link so that people can check it out and comment if they'd like.

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Date: 2004-11-04 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amandageist.livejournal.com
Bush administration and its supporters, especially evangelical Christians, cherry pick the evidence that suits their policy desires, whether it's regarding the environment, abortion, or weapons of mass destruction.

I think all of us do that, administrations or individuals. Especially individuals; we'll have a subjective position and self-select for the external documentation that supports it. I don't think it's anything anyone can help; it takes a good bit of discipline and objectivity to even be aware of it. I catch myself doing it all the time. So I think it's hardly fair to level this against the Bush administration as a unique and specific failure, especially since most of us are in no position to know the degree to which it may be true; we can't know the full spectrum of actual objective fact they work from.

~Amanda

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Date: 2004-11-04 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobhowe.livejournal.com
So I think it's hardly fair to level this against the Bush administration as a unique and specific failure, especially since most of us are in no position to know the degree to which it may be true...

I beg to differ. The Union of Concerned Scientists begs to differ:

On February 18, 2004, 62 preeminent scientists including Nobel laureates, National Medal of Science recipients, former senior advisers to administrations of both parties, numerous members of the National Academy of Sciences, and other well-known researchers released a statement titledĀ Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policy Making. In this statement, the scientists charged the Bush administration with widespread and unprecedented "manipulation of the process through which science enters into its decisions."

Since the release of the UCS report in February, the administration has continued to undermine the integrity of science in policy making seemingly unchecked. Many scientists have spoken out about their frustration with an administration that has undermined the quality of the science that informs policy making by suppressing, distorting, or manipulating the work done by scientists at federal agencies and on scientific advisory panels.

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