I see I turned anonymous comments back on too soon

[pegkerr]

I have deleted the comment and turned anonymous comments back off.

I will not tolerate asshats today. Especially the kind that tell me it's my own fault that I got spoiled for the book (I got spoiled thirty-six hours before the book was officially released, in the found_objects forum--a photography forum, for god's sakes, not any of the HP forums).

And I don't think I'm going to be feeling any more tolerant for quite awhile. Anonymous comments are going to stay off for a long time now.

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[callunav.livejournal.com]

This is me not blaming you one tiny little bit.

[pegkerr.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[magentamn.livejournal.com]

Since I can't comment on the previous entry, you do NOT suck at everything. Sorry you are having a bad day.

I may the last person to read HPatHBP in my circle of friends. I hope to pick it up at the library today or tomorrow. I was 21 of 371 holds at the Minneapolis Public Library. I won't be able to read it until tomorrow in any event, and it would be just too tempting to take the day off if I had it in my hands.

[callunav.livejournal.com]

Um, okay. I could be totally off-base here, and besides, it's not really my business, but I kind of figure people don't often disable comments by accident. I sort of figure that someone has turned off comments it's because they don't want, you know, comments.

I really shouldn't be interpolating here, though. I apologize, both to you and to Peg. Though I suppose if I were /really/ apologetic, I wouldn't post the comment, but I don't seem to be quite /that/ apologetic. I don't mean to be rude - I really don't! - but this kind of truly well-meaning thing makes me feel cranky. Seems like someone should be able to say, in essence, "I feel this way. It may not be reasonable, but I feel it and having people argue with me about my feelings isn't going to help right now," which is how I interpret the disabling of comments. But, you know, I could be totally off-base, here, so--if so, sorry.

*ANY*how - I'm enjoying the book at a leisurely rate. I can't take it with me to work sites, though, because if any of the teens I work with saw I had it, I'd never get it back. And I'm enjoying being able to enjoy it at a leisurely rate, and not feeling that I have to hurry in order to get it read before I get it spoil(er)ed. This is because A: I have good friends, B: I'm good at crossing my eyes so that everything gets blurry the instant I think something may be a spoiler, C: I have terrorized everyone who knows me in person on the subject of spoilers long since, and D: I've been lucky so far.

And I appreciate that luck. I do not take any of that for granted, let me tell you.

[pegkerr.livejournal.com]

I see both the commiseration and the forebearance as well-intended, and therefore can acccept both.

It is only asshats that I object to today.

[callunav.livejournal.com]

Hear, hear.

[magentamn.livejournal.com]

Since I can't comment on the previous entry, you do NOT suck at everything. Sorry you are having a bad day.

I may the last person to read HPatHBP in my circle of friends. I've had to avoid reading a lot of people's blogs to avoid spoilers. I hope to pick it up at the library today or tomorrow. I was 21 of 371 holds at the Minneapolis Public Library. I won't be able to read it until tomorrow in any event, and it would be just too tempting to take the day off if I had it in my hands.

[http://users.livejournal.com/anam_cara_/]

What happened? Did I miss something? Which post?

Nevermind- obviously you deleted it, and it was upsetting, but of course I'm insatiably curious and have to ask anyway.

Makes one tempted to avoid LJ completely for awhile, doesn't? Spoiled or not for the book, seeing other's rude behavior is just shocking and disturbing, they seem so vindictive, and I don't understand why.

[mmerriam.livejournal.com]

I think that's perfectly reasonable. soshats should not be tolerated. I consider myself lucky that I managed ot avoid the spoilers. I know I'd be furious with them, and with aynone who would dare to insinuate it was somehow my fault I was spoiled.

humph.

There are too many idiots in the world sometimes.

[mmerriam.livejournal.com]

soshats should not be tolerated.

Asshats should not be tolerated. I seem to have fat fingers today.

[jimhines.livejournal.com]

I stumbled across a big one in one of the SFWA newsgroups, and was Not Happy. I'm reading the whole book through the lens of, "How is this leading up to ____________?" Grumble...

[nmalfoy.livejournal.com]

I don't know what happened, but I know a few people that got spoiled in the same way as you and NO WAY was it your fault.

People can be penis wrinkles.

[dejaspirit.livejournal.com]

Don't you think you're being unkind to perfectly innocent penis wrinkles everywhere by comparing the asshats that spoiled Pegg to them?

[ame-chan.livejournal.com]

I don't allow anonymous commentary at all in my journal. If someone wants to snark, they need to speak and have a face to it.

[ame-chan.livejournal.com]

And yes.... spoilers suck. These jerks who are taking malicious delight in ruining it for everyone need to be smacked. It's not nice. I don't blame you for being upset. I personally haven't even got a copy of the book yet (we're POOR this month!) but when I do? I'm looking forward to not knowing what happens. So not clicking any cut tags or reading any HP posts in general.

[magentamn.livejournal.com]

And if you can believe it, I had to leave my cube and find something to do elsewhere because the person in the next cube was going on and on about HP, and was obviously going to Tell All. I think this was rude.

[chance88088.livejournal.com]

Hmm - I have to say that never would have occurred to me that I ought not to discuss something like that in the office with someone who didn't mind - a friend and I do that with movies all the time and if the one guy who listens doesn't want to know he just give a little "ok enough of that" comment and we stop with the spoilery.

[dd-b.livejournal.com]

There are umpteen ways and reasons for posting to LiveJournal (hmm, perhaps that should be "nine-and-sixty"), which lead to perhaps that many squared ideas of what one *wants* in comments and comment policy, and all of them are right. Especially when they're matched up with each other correctly.

You don't have to argue with somebody who you think is being unreasonable in your own LJ if you don't want to. And you don't have to listen to him *without* arguing if you don't want to.

And in this particular case, from your report of it, I agree with you completely, although that's not the main point here. There are kinds of LJ where it would seem to me the wrong thing to do (where, for example, the LJ owner holds him or herself out as prepared to take on all comers on some topic), but you're very clearly not running one of those. You have not taken on any duty of justifying your emotional reactions to random passersby!

[dejaspirit.livejournal.com]

You do suck. At sucking.

*smacks you*

[althea_valara]

I really wish people would be more considerate. I know a lot of folks are spoiler hogs and like finding out as much in advance as possible. I can understand the urge. Most people who are like this, though, tend to realise that not everyone wants to know, so they'll be careful of what they say and post. I can understand honest mistakes like messing up an LJ-cut and not realising it right away, or not considering something to be a spoiler. Those I can forgive.

What I don't understand and can't forgive are the people who think it's funny to spoil others. I very much dislike that I felt I had to stay away from my friends list and most of communities I follow. I didn't like not being able to participate on LiveJournal for a few days, because LiveJournal plays a very important part of my life.

What really, REALLY makes me angry is the person who made a very spoilery icon and then USED IT outside of her journal. It wasn't even in a Harry Potter community. It was just some random community that I thought would be safe to read. Nope. I got spoiled for the biggest event in the book. I pretty much had guessed it would happen from rumblings I've heard the past few months, but still, I really would have prefered to NOT have confirmation so I could read the book without biting my fingernails wondering when it would happen. I just can't understand WHY people would want to do such a thing. I was so worried about spoiling folks that I didn't even post vague emotional reactions to the book outside of an LJ-Cut. Guess I'm one of the few people who are actually considerate of their fellow readers.

[pegkerr.livejournal.com]

Exactly. Grr.

I have decided I will stop reading LJ entirely, and perhaps most of the Internet the date the next book gets shipped.

[pegkerr.livejournal.com]

Oh, and your icon brought a very nice memory back for me. Thanks.

[http://users.livejournal.com/anam_cara_/]

I seriously would take such friends off my list, if it is just someone posting in their own journal, and they have a clue that their friends may not want to be spoiled, they should be considerate. As for communities? I don't know, I think the moderators of the community should have gotten more involved if they cared (of course, one community- snarkvancouver, or something like that, it was the creator that posted it there). However, I do realize, it's not like they would know immediately or have the time to watch it like a hawk (and I did read somewhere that the creator of the found_objects community is in the middle of moving across the country). I've never run a community, but I would think it would be worthwhile to remove posts, comments, and membership by such vicious people.

I'm hoping beyond hope that the jeremy character and the rest that spoiled everything before the book was out get sued... make that legally harassed for years on end, then sued. Seriously- if they can crack down on individuals pirating music, they should be able to track these guys down. I know lj_abuse got notified, I wonder if everyone that is upset notified them, if that would make a bigger impact.

[pegkerr.livejournal.com]

It may be entertaining to imagine revenge on the spoiler and his ilk, but of course that is like locking the barn door after the horse has escaped. The damage has already been done, and that is what I regret the most.

[http://users.livejournal.com/anam_cara_/]

Granted, the damage has been done, and there's no compensating what was done anyway, but just to counter the smugness and perhaps deter such behavior the next round.

And I'd call that comeuppance, not revenge :)

[kijjohnson.livejournal.com]

I see I missed all the excitement. I love you, I don't blame you for wishing to avoid asshattery, and I'm sorry things are rough at the moment. You are fine.