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If you haven't see it, here's an exceedingly condescending write up of Lumos, from The Observer.

The writer was mostly talking about being squicked by those freaky slashers. However, if you haven't seen my post written in 2003 about Harry Potter and the condescension of the critics, you might want to take a look it it here.

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Date: 2006-08-07 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
No, not really. I don't think I can change people, and I don't think that people change due to some redeeming event. I'm not attracted to bad guys, either, and so I don't really read that quote as condescending.

K.

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Date: 2006-08-07 03:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
So it's okay when George Lucas does it, but it's Female Delusion when fans talk about it amongst themselves? Since redemption is such a prominent theme in myth, why on earth is it appropriate (and not condescending) to call it female delusion here?

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Date: 2006-08-07 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with George Lucas's work to parse a sentence with 4 uses of the word "it". However, I was also just talking about my opinion.
You make a valid point that I was thinking about my relationship with actual people and not fictional characters.

K.

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Date: 2006-08-07 04:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ivyblossom.livejournal.com
Oh, so sorry! Let me rephrase!

So it is okay (and downright respectable) for prominent film producers, famous writers (including J.R.R. Tolkien and Shakespeare) to consider the possibility that apparently an "evil" or unpleasant character might be redeemed in the progress of a story, but it's female delusion if Harry Potter fans talk about that same concept of at a event at a con dedicated to the topic?

FYI: Darth Vader is a bad guy throughout the first three Star Wars movies, and he kills lots of people and is the main villain, but it turns out that he's the hero's father and Vader admits that he was wrong right before he dies. And we see him as a happy ghost after that, all redeemed and stuff.

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Date: 2006-08-07 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
I guess I just don't see the world through the lens of fictional characters.

K.

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Date: 2006-08-09 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenora-rose.livejournal.com
Not even when reading/interpreting a quote that is directly discussing a fictional character?

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