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I have been noticing more and more people here in George Bush's America, standing at busy street corners and holding signs to panhandle money. What is so striking is how similar all the messages are that are scrawled on the cardboard signs. What, is there a rigid style sheet or something out there for homeless people that they all think they have to follow? The messages address the coded anxieties about class, even as they ask for help.

"Homeless."

[I'm not a slacker scrounging for change for a cup of coffee and a video game. I really need help.]

"Hungry."

[ditto. A definite appeal to pity. Meaning: This is a real, serious problem.]

"Will work for food."

[Message: I'm not lazy]

"Veteran."

[I'd guess that somewhere between 50-80% of the guys' signs say this. As [livejournal.com profile] brithistorian points out, many of them wear Army surplus jackets, to cement the impression. Probably many more claim to be veterans than are actually veterans. The underlying message is, "I'm a good, virtuous, civic-minded citizen who has served his country, who is just down on hard luck right now." The message works, too, because so many people have heard that many veterans are homeless]

"God bless."

[This one is ubiquitous. Just about EVERYONE has it. Translation: "I'm a moral person." (And probably: "I'm not going to use this money to get drunk.") This, I think, is an attempt to answer the common cultural anxious perception that those who are homeless are "homeless by choice" as Reagan put it, often because they are too lazy to work. It also appeals to morality in the passersby, subtly reminding them that their religion might require that they give money to beggers.

Edited to add: I would also like to hasten to assure my atheist friends reading this entry that I certainly don't assume that you have to be religious to be moral. But I think that many Americans do--and this message, "God bless," addresses that.

Edited to add, II: As [livejournal.com profile] nmsunbear points out, this last message can also simply be a way to say "thank you."]

What other messages have you seen, and how do you interpret them?

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Date: 2006-08-04 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ann-totusek.livejournal.com
My favorite, (and I have actually seen this with a Des Moines regular) rather than just heard it in a joke) is "Why lie? I need a beer!"

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Date: 2006-08-04 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizardlaugh.livejournal.com
In my experience riding city buses in cities where no one rides the buses except for students and the homeless, the vast majority of homeless people are suffering from mental illness or drug addiction or a combination of the two. Truly, very, very few people are homeless because they just can't get a job. I feel sorry for them, but ulitmately these are people who can't be helped.

I don't think the language that use is anything having to do with who is in power -- that has ALWAYS been the case. OF COURSE they are going to seem like upright citizens so people will give them money. It's not a political statement, it's a sales pitch.

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Date: 2006-08-04 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com
People who are mentally ill or on drugs can't be helped?

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Date: 2006-08-04 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
There are some younger, quasi-hip street people here in Seattle on Broadway (sort of the local hip drag) who frequently have signs that say "Need Beer" or "Fishing for Beer" or something similar. (I've known people who give thme change because "At least they're being honest about what they want the money for." Altho presumably the person could be just asking for beer money, and then could use the change for something else....) Downtown, where there are more businesspeople and tourists, there are a few signs like that, but mostly the signs are like the ones you describe -- some of them get quite elaborate, including details about car broke down, ran out of gas, need bus ticket to Tuscon, &c. There are a fair number of homeless people with dogs, which sort of surprises me (what do the dogs eat? If the person gets into a shelter, can the dog go to?). A few even have cats. People sometimes seem more inclined to give money "for the animals" (one guy set up his dog with his own cardboard sign, sunglasses, water/food bowls, and coffee cup. He was around the corner).

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:14 pm (UTC)
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i had a long chat with one of the cat guys on the bus. she gets fed before he does, and he has a hard time getting work because most jobs won't let him bring the cat along. (a lot of the homeless folks in Seattle do day labor.) he seemed to consider his relationship with his cat to be the most important thing. nice guy, different set of priorities.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brithistorian.livejournal.com
Also I've noted that most of them tend to be wearing an army surplus jacket, to lend credence ot the "Veteran" claim.

When Angel and I moved to Minneapolis last summer, we were forcibly struck by the relative lack of homeless people at intersections, compared to New Orleans. This summer I've noticed a tremendous increase - still not to pre-Katrina New Orleans levels (which sometimes featured four guys sharing one intersection), but still many multiples of what I saw last year.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmsunbear.livejournal.com
Huh. I'm sure you're right about the reason for the "God bless," but I always kind of thought it was an attempt to give you something for your money, or your kindness. Like, I don't have anything to give you in return, but at least I can try to give you this blessing.

Of course, I've always been a touch naive... :)

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbru.livejournal.com
The other message I see often is some reference to the family of the homeless person. That they are trying to support a son/daughter. Also a message that makes the person with the sign out to be someone in real trouble that isn't trying to get some beer.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
It's strange to be living in a country beset with beggars. That used to be something from the Third World. I also have quite a lot of people approaching me on the street or in parking lots.

Researchers managed to find at least one family that does it "professionally" -- and nets enough to live in hotels and eat regularly. Probably not the norm, but like most people I wonder how often I'm being scammed. The people who approach me on the street for money are often dressed more expensively than I am. I still sometimes give them money.

I've seen the "Why lie? I need a beer!" version in Minneapolis.

I don't give to the ones with religious references on their signs. That's probably unfair; they're probably just playing to their perceived audience without regard to their own beliefs.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huladavid.livejournal.com
It's not so much the messages I respond to, but just the very presence of homeless people asking for money. I try to have "good Christian understanding", but at the same time they scare me because of how close I thought I came to being homeless a year ago when I had my depressive smackdown. While I shy away from giving money a few weeks ago I saw a young woman playing violin (excellently, I might add) and dropped $5 into her case. I guess 'cuz I found her a bit of real life humanity in a sterile, urban setting.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magentamn.livejournal.com
That is busking, not panhandling. I will not give money to beggars, no matter how pathetic.I will give money to buskers if they are any good.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Much as I approve of the idea of direct giving to the neediest of people, I have seen too much "shift change" sign hand-offs where the rest of the group are sitting on a bus bench near by, or hanging out (at my favorite local spot for seeing this sort of action) under the trees on the northeast corner of the intersection of the westbound I-94 off-ramp at Cedar Ave.

I'm not buying beer for people on the street.

K.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbru.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've seen the team at Cedar and I-94. Their latest prop addition is a wheelchair. Thing is, I could tell by the way the guy sat it in that a) it wasn't his chair and b) he didn't need it due to non-functioning legs. It made me wonder where they got it.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magentamn.livejournal.com
"Will work for food". I thought that was the classic. There used to be someone who stood at one of the ramps from Cedar Ave to I94 with that sign every day. I think the implication is that they have very little.

But aren't we all "working for food"?

I've heard various things on the economics of panhandling. The idea of begging as a profession, and possibly one that pays rather well, is not a new idea. See "The Man with the Twisted Lip" by Arthus Conan Doyle. It's in any complete Sherlock Holmes, but I don't remember the precise collection.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.

Available from Project Gutenberg, http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1661

There's also, of course, Heinlein's Citizen of the Galaxy.

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Date: 2006-08-04 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizzlaurajean.livejournal.com
I saw a guy with one last week on the corner of Lake and 31st holding his sign down while he talked on his cell phone.

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Date: 2006-08-04 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adrian-turtle.livejournal.com
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Is it, "How strange that a person with no job, and probably no place to live, can afford a cell phone. The prices of things sure have changed a lot!" Or are you trying to say something more like, "How dare he presume to use a phone! Phones are like clean clothes and job interviews -- they mark class, and a person who slips too far down should never be allowed to come back?"

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Date: 2006-08-04 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kijjohnson.livejournal.com
The most disturbing one I ever saw:

SPIT ON ME FOR A DOLLAR
From: [identity profile] prunesnprisms.livejournal.com
I have seen signs that says "Single mom" or "Homeless with kids".

My policy is--I make a good salary. If I have a dollar in my pocket, or purse, I will spare it. Sometimes I'll even spare two at the same intersection if I can. I've decided it is one small way I can throw goodwill into the world--giving the gift of a little trust, whether or not it is deserved. One of the saddest nights I ever spent was after seeing a show (tickets over $100 each) and having a $50/person dessert with drinks was seeing a man sleeping on the street two blocks over with one leg. The sad part was that my companion said "Don't give him money, he's there all the time." But I did anyway.

I give to organizations that help too, when I can. My main charity is breast cancer-related and I have also given money to the red cross, habitat for humanity, the march of dimes, and a local food bank, plus my home donations go to a local AIDS research charity. But mostly I like to think that maybe I've made a little difference, somewhere.

I did not like the earlier comment someone had about how mentally ill and alcoholics or addicts can't be helped. I think everyone can be helped. I just don't think most of us care enough to help. It's too hard to care.

One time I gave this woman--do not remember what her sign said but it made me cry--a $5 at a red light. She started to cry too. I honestly can't believe in my head that she bought a drink with that money. But if that's the thing she needed most that afternoon, I hope I helped her get that.

there, but for the grace of god, you know.
From: [identity profile] em-h.livejournal.com
Thank you!! These are exactly the things I wanted to say, but couldn't summon the words to say properly.

Also, the persona who commented above about the cell phone? A cheap phone and a cheap plan, not much money. A lot less than having a land line and an apartment to have it in. If you're trying to find work, you're going to have a bloody hard time of it without a phone number, and scraping together a few bucks for a cell makes a lot of sense. Similarly, the people who look clean and well-dressed -- you don't know how hard they may be working to look that way, the church basement they may be using to wash, the time they spend searching the Goodwill for clothes they could wear to a job interview. Making judgements about things like that is almost like punishing people for trying to get off the streets.

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Date: 2006-08-04 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weaselmom.livejournal.com
The guy near our house has a sign reading simply, "DUH!"

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Date: 2006-08-04 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
I like that. Extending trust to the viewer; I read it as "you understand what's going on here already".

I do *not* read it as the guy saying he needs help because he's stupid :-). Although it occurs to me that somebody might actually do so.

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Date: 2006-08-04 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heure-actuelle.livejournal.com
i saw one downtown that said "parents killed by ninjas--need money for kung-fu lessons" if memory serves me correct it was by a younger person and he had his friends around.

whether or not people would actually give him money, it was a good tactic. humor gets people's attention and i bet more people read it than the other homeless signs.

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Date: 2006-08-04 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saoba.livejournal.com
Here's my personal take, arrived at over many years.

I don't know if they are really homeless. I don't know what they will spend the money on. I don't know whether or not they really need the money, what programs they've tried, what shelters they've gone to, that they 'deserve' my help.

I do know what it is like to be broke, to be sick, to be on a waiting list for some over-stretched program. I do know whether or not I can spare that dollar in change in the bottom of my purse. I do know that many people are just one or two paychecks from being homeless. I do know how just one major medical crisis can wreck you financially.

If they don't really need it and I don't give it to them, no harm no foul.

If they don't really need it and I do give it to them, I'm out a buck.

If they do really need it and I give it to them, they benefit and I did a good thing, however small.

If they do need it and I don't give them the buck, we both lose something.

I donate to appropriate charities. I write to my congress-creatures about the safety net. I live in a state with deposits on soda bottles and cans and the local half-way house residents know they can take the bag of cans off my porch and return them for the nickel a can; I hate the hassle and they can use the cash.

I've walked a pan-handler into a fast food joint and paid for their meal. I've gone into a store and come out with an extra bag of dog food and handed it to a guy sitting on the curb with one of those 'Homeless, please help' signs and had him thank me with tears in his eyes. I've called a local shelter on my cell phone while watching a homeless person who was clearly not-functioning well and stayed until someone came to check on him.

Have I been conned? I'm sure I have, sometimes. I'm okay with that.

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Date: 2006-08-04 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
Treating "don't be conned" as the highest priority is icky, and can be used as an excuse to avoid helping in pretty much every situation (I've got a creative mind, I can construct a way this might be a con). You can never be 100% sure your money is doing good (even if you give to an organization instead of directly). Oh, and it also contributes to how controlling and intrusive the formal safety-net programs mostly are, and that's bad.

So it helps a lot to be sanguine about some of your "help" going in useless directions, as you seem to be.

I may be wrong here, but I'm getting the impression (out on the street, not from this discussion) that there are more and more people who will casually try to hit up strangers for a buck recreationally, with no particular special need. They tend to sour people's attitudes and spoil it for the people who really need it, which is too bad.

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Date: 2006-08-04 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nmalfoy.livejournal.com
I saw one that said "Fuck it. I need booze." So I gave him money. I mean, at least he was honest.

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Date: 2006-08-05 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeanineers.livejournal.com
Several years ago my husband & I were gobsmacked by a quick thinking panhandler. My husband was wearing a Batman logo t-shirt and the panhandler queried "Spare change to keep Gotham safe?"
Brilliant! I can't remember if we emptied our pockets for him or regretted that we had no change to share. But I do know that we laughed our asses off.

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Date: 2006-08-05 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
The Minneapolis Star Tribune is running a story about panhandlers tomorrow. It might be a multipart story over several days, since it begins on a Sunday.

K.

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Date: 2006-08-06 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cryptaknight.livejournal.com
We see a lot of homeless in Las Vegas, largely the result of either legal gambling or a high rate of meth use, or both. A majority of signs say things like, "Lost all my money, trying to get home," although there is one regular who hangs out by B&N that appears to be a veteran.

I don't have a lot of money to spare, but I will give food if possible. I've given food and had it turned down because it wasn't to the panhandler's liking, and at that point, I felt I'd done my best by them. I will also always give a can of cat/dog food if there is an animal involved. My most memorable experience with a panhandler actually took place in San Diego; on the way home from Costco, my roommate and I saw a young, well-groomed man in camoflouge who was missing both legs, with a sign that indicated he was trying to feed his children. We felt terrible for him, and gave him our hotdogs, a loaf of bread, and a few other things. He was genuinely grateful, and I really felt that we had done a good deed.

This same roommate has a brother who is currently homeless; she took care of him for a long time, but he is brain damaged (mental capacity of a 13 year old, and his decisions definitely reflect that), and his inclination is to roam. Since he's in his forties, there's not much she can do when she's unable to find him. Unfortunately, he is also an addict and HIV-positive, and we do fear the worst, in his case. Even so, she's, for the most part, disinclined to give money to panhandlers- not for any lack of compassion, but for fear that she's enabling them to do as her brother and live on the streets with their family unable to find them, and out of awareness of what the money will likely be spent on, from what her brother has shared with her.

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Date: 2006-08-06 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eileenlufkin.livejournal.com
Christmas is coming
The geese are getting fat
Please to put a penny in the old man's hat.

If you haven't got a penny
A ha'penny will do
If you haven't got a ha'penny
God bless you.

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Date: 2007-04-11 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bardricks227.livejournal.com
There are always needy persons along the streets – some just pretending and some really are. I do not take a look what signs they have on, I just make it a point to give some help - I don’t care whether they will use the money they get on vises or on providing for their family…. I just give – at times money, at times food and at times used clothes that I feel I don’t need anymore. I just give to help – however they use it, is OK with me….I am just thankful that I am not in their situation, that I am the one helping instead of the one begging for help.

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